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Post by Trash on Jul 31, 2010 11:06:37 GMT -5
So, me and Dashing are usually discussing Raw, Smackdown or Impact in little brackets in our RPS and it ends up where half the page is a discussion of events. Hence the thread. And since this is a slash board, we should probably be okay to discuss anythig along those lines too. Feel free to jump in at any point!
I’ve been a major pro-wrestling fan most of my life, my best friend had a sky box and we would watch the shows every week, plus the pay-per-views when they were all free (major bone of contention with me that they aren’t anymore). Currently my favourite wrestlers are the entire former Legacy trio (although Cody in a face mask is something I never needed to see, TYVM). Then there’ s Chris Jericho, Evan Bourne, The Undertaker (he was my favourite wrestler for about a hundred years, lol) and many more that I’ll no doubt remember to mention as soon as I walk out of the house. Over the years I’ve veered between utterly obsessive and mildly interested, I have enough wrestling-related stuff to make people roll their eyes at it and although it’s been a long while since I went to a live show, the UK tour is very close to my birthday and the live Raw is the closest one to home XD.
Wrestling slash however, you can blame Dashing for, since it had never once occurred to me… completely weirdly, me being a slash fangirl and all. Now I’m getting a little obsessive over it, lol.
At the moment I’m enjoying the series that went on with Bourne and Jericho, very superior. Shame it’s all but over really. I liked the Nexus invasion angle, but it’s starting to get a bit old and samey now. I don’t like the PG rules, but I’m hoping that when Linda’s campaign gets flattened in November, we might get a bit more of the old school blood-everywhere matches. Because although the matches shouldn’t be about the blood, there are some matches where it’s just unrealistic not to expect it.
Soooo… thoughts please!
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Post by Kurt "Fashionista" Hummel on Jul 31, 2010 12:05:55 GMT -5
As Trash stated: I am the blame for bringing Wrestling slash to this site xDD Can't exactly say I am sorry about it either as I feel less nerdish in my obsessiveness (butchered grammar, hope my English Teacher never comes across this xP) when I'm sharing it with someone who feels the same way haha. Actually, this counts for pretty much any slash I'm into >.>
My dad got me into wrestling when I was only a little kiddie-winkle and although I had a hiatus for a while when my dad was always posted abroad with the army I am now back and more obsessive than ever *cue evil laugh*. I've been to one house show and two live shows: I was there when Ricky Hatton and David Hasslehoff were hosting, and I was sat behind King and Michael Cole xDD love it! So gutted that there is nothing but the crap seats left for this year... It's my eighteenth and I was planning to go T.T. I was a complete fangirl for the former Legacy, and still am for them as individuals (I was in stitches over Cody's facemask... didn't you love his attention to detail enough to avoid his nose stud. Something he needs to get rid of nao incidentally. Srsly. Teddy does not approve xD) I love John Cena, Evan Bourne, Chris Jericho, The Miz, Michael Cole (not a wrestler, but so what xP) and several others. Divas I'm more picky of because, well, they're nothing but show-poodles for the main so are harder to form opinions on >.<
I haven't been a slash fangirl for too long I guess, as opposed to what it may seem like xD my friend Daryl got me into it, and then it just developed. Now I can find slash in almost anything I read or watch if I like it... I guess that makes me obsessed, huh? Ah well xD
No-blood and PG sucks rotten eggs >.< DNW Vince, srsly! Wants Evan and Chris to keep going feuding, Randy and John to tag-team for their serious in-ring chemistry and eye-fucking, and wants Cody back on RAW so he can show Maryse who the Million Dollar Prince Ted really loves best xD. Hates Nexus with a passion, their slogan doesn't work, and just can't take any of them seriously... David Otunga is the most applling though *chokes self whenever he appears on-screen* Yeah... Wants wrestling back old-school on some things, but changes on others. Wants Divas to really wrestle! And wants Mickie James back because, yah, favourite Diva and could actually wrestle... Though her tinyness did amuse me greatly xP
So, yup, there's my fangirling over for the moment xD
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Post by Trash on Aug 1, 2010 3:58:01 GMT -5
Heh, I didn't notice that Cody missed his nose stud because I was hiding my face and shouting "Do Not Want!" loudly the moment he appeared with the face mask on - I've got it taped though and might go back and check it out. I can't really comment on the nose stud, I used to have one although mine was larger and cooler, I guess he must struggle with it because who wants to get face-planted with something potentially painful?
The Divas do my head in, because they don't go for actual wrestling ability and they could do and the audience loves it - TNA last year proved that, and Japenese wrestling puts emphasis on ability rather than inflated chests. About ten years ago, there was a main event on Raw which was the ladies title match with the Rock as guest ref, which kinda put the emphasis there, but now it's just models who can pull hair and that's truly annoying. TNA is going the same way now, which is frustrating.
I want Cody back on Raw too! Or at least that Smackdown is treated less like the second-tier show. I like that the two programmes are treated as seperate entities, it works, but it would work better if Smackdown was approached as equal to Raw. When Triple H was drafted and it took 3 guys to get him back, or when wrestlers mope about being transferred, that only emphasises it. Drives me mental, it does! On the other hand, it gives exposure to the wrestlers at least, although I'm not convinced that the 'Dashing' thing does anything for Cody. I keep ending up singing Christmas carols at him XD Still, I like him as an arrogant brat.
The Nexus... well, at least it's new. I was seriously pissed at them using Evan as cannon fodder though. Seriously, what's up with that? How are we supposed to take him seriously when he's getting battered every five minutes? And he's good, use someone useless like Mark Henry as fodder for them!
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Post by Kurt "Fashionista" Hummel on Aug 1, 2010 4:22:22 GMT -5
I know >.< poor Evvy's face when the Nexus all went for him. That match was a total farce though-- one minute the established wrestlers are kicking the Nexus' ass and then all of a sudden there's just Evan and Tyson Kidd (who needs to get rid of that ri-di-cu-lous haircut BTW) left. So... lame. They're really reaching for storylines, you can tell. I want to know who this supposed GM is. It's deffo not Stone Cold, that much was confirmed by a WWE employee... I swear it's just Bret or something.
Hairpulling... It shames women everywhere, professional athlete or not. DNW. The women's wrestling in TNA was the one thing my friend and I agreed on where they top the WWE; otherwise they just copy it. Ric Flair deserves a smack for the blatant disrespect he showed the fans and the WWE by going to TNA, and Hulk Hogan's not much better *shakes head*. TNA are really struggling and it shows-- and it's universally known that Vince could have them shut down within the week if he wanted to dominate the business, but he doesn't.
Cody's beauty tips have me in stitches xD the facemask was just so o.o and I swear before he turns around to talk to the camera he's trying not to laugh... I would have been less successful in that endeavour xDD. Vicky Guerrero pisses me off to high heaven. I've never liked her, not even a little bit. Whenever she's involved in a storyline it goes the same way... It's pretty much the Edge/Vicky storyline but with Dolph instead of Edge *rolls eyes* they'll be getting married next. I'm annoyed he's the prospect for the next IC Champ. There are far too many heels in conjunction to the baby-faces and I think they could do with evening it out a bit more. Laycool just... suck. Teddy Long is a legend for the fact he's finally making that farce of a pair of champions >.> don't like. Any other Champion has title defences, and Layla has had what, 2? And Michelle McCool has interfered each time and so has Vicky. Blurgh.
I want the Nexus to get their asses kicked xD The whole point of NXT was to pick the next 1 break-out star, and yet they have the whole damned lot of them save for Daniel Bryan-- and he only got fired because of the strangling of ring announcer Justin Roberts (how buff was he under that suit BTW? *diez*) and spitting. Vince hates spitting with a passion, so that was why he got the boot despite him being the one the WWE apparently had the most plans for.
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Post by Trash on Aug 2, 2010 2:04:32 GMT -5
The new GM – I don’t think even Vince knows. It’s just one of those things that buys more time. I think Triple H will be revealed as the power behind them and I will be SO DISAPPOINTED – lame. And it’ll take until Survivor Series to announce that, it’ll be all about Tripper and the guys will quietly disband… I hope I’m wrong. It’s much the same thing as Tough Enough, if you recall that, picking a breakout star is okay in theory but not quite so workable in reality. Heh, but I think it’ll be a way to work Bryan back in there, he’s got enough support to be returned relatively soon.
If they’re thinking of putting over Evan, they need him to get some wins! I don’t just mean over Jericho, whose contract is up in Sept, but some other people too. I’m not saying Shaemus, but he needs to be seen getting wins. The same goes for Jack Swagger, who has been treated abominably as champion. He should have retained (through cheating or whatever, it would have added to his heel persona). Mysterio needs six months off, it would have made sense all around. Don’t get me wrong, Rey rules, but it would have made a much better story-line if Jack had retained, and made him look that much harder.
If you’re after tickets, Powerslam mag is giving some away as part of a competition. I’ve been reading that for about a million years anyway, I tell you what though, they hate Cena!
TNA girls were awesome until this year. Hogan and Flair have killed that right off – I wish Dixie would get a clue and fire them. Flair is incoherant and Hogan just thinks he IS the industry. Now, the Beautiful People are rather pathetic and all the really good wrestlers are gone (Kong and ODB quit, and I loved ODB! I wanted to be her when I grow up, lol). Plus totally going against wrestling psycology was the three faces versus one heel. That was a mess. I wish they would get back to being good – I know Vince could crush them, but Vince always puts on his best shows when he has real competition. And Lay-Cool are a far weaker Beautiful People rip off, at least the BP are not quite so aggravating.
Vickie… I’m funny about her. Like, I wanna throttle her, but that’s her job. And plus, Eddy was one of my favourite wrestlers for a long time before he died, I thought his comeback was intense, I can see that she’d wanna secure a future for her children. Bt I imagine she already has done and Dolph? Much as I respect that he wants to be great, I don’t think he will be as an Edge-replacement. And he used to be in the Spirit Squad, which was just ick. Needs to change the hair and do something exciting in the ring, not rehash the same tired storyline that Edge used!
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Post by Kurt "Fashionista" Hummel on Aug 2, 2010 2:56:16 GMT -5
According to something my mum's bf read, the WWE are scouting for more Diva-talent to work on, but in the sense of actually wrestling divas-- they're apparently looking into hiring that Kong and OBD xD And yah, just... No. Flair, you've had your time, and you too Hogan. Jack, I admit, should have retained -and was apparently supposed to considering Rey was scheduled for surgery- but then that never happened, so... Alicia Fox is as bad a Champion as Layla in Laycool context, she's just so damned random and I just.. Gah. The stereotypical schreechy woman thing is so annoying. >.<
I can't remember if it was before or after that epic tag-match of Evan and John's that John apparently went into Vince's office and started having a go at him about the way he undervalues the potential of the smaller-physiqued wrestlers xD the mental image made me grin because I could picture it all too well. It was the reason Jeff Hardy quit WWE (stupid move *shakes head*) and they know they can't really afford to have it happen to too many more-- they don't have that many established wrestlers as it is. I heard that Bret DiBiase was supposed to have been in the WWE by now, considering he was seen last Summer Slam or whenever it was...
Rumor has it that Nexus is supposed to win at Summer Slam. D.N.W >.< no no no no no. The storyline was new at first, but now it's just getting the same old thing and it's boring. One of the RAW Superstars is meant to cost them the victory by turning on his own team.
A few people have said to me that Vickie would never have done half of the crap that she has if Eddie were still alive, and she apparently left wrestling the first time because her kids were getting bullied! That made me laugh in a way considering she's just as bad now so that's probably not helping them any. Dolph I just... I agree, I don't like him. I don't think he's especially good in the ring and his hair just grosses me out. If he's perfection the rest of us are pretty much screwed aren't we? I don't like the Uso's either. That Tamina is just scary looking and I can't stand Jimmy and Jay... They're just riding on their fathers' achievements and even then they aren't doing that too well either I don't think.
Sheamus needs to just stop being champ lol. He's not actually won the title on his own merit since he's got in, and apparently he's pissed loads of people off in-company considering that he comes onto the show, beats up the likes of Jamie Noble, and suddenly becomes WWE Champ. It made me laugh to find out that Drew McIntyre had really lost his championship because no-one backstage liked him; they're all expected to pull their weight, and Drew was apparently ordering everyone about and demanding everything for himself-- the chosen one angle was getting old-hat too.
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Post by Trash on Aug 2, 2010 15:14:16 GMT -5
Guy to turn on the team should the Nexus win - my cash is on Bret. Vince isn't about to turn Cena (the man's a merchandise machine), Edge or Jericho's too obvious, no one cares enough about Khali for it to be truly shocking and the same goes for the mid-card dudes... not that they don't have fans, but it would have to be one of the main-event wrestlers, or Bret. And Bret would be a huge swerve I guess. Still, not keen on the thought of Nexus winning at all, I think it'd be better for the Raw team to score one. Also, I'm not sure about the Survivor Series rules... I think wild brawls at ringside are teh way to go, lol.
I just watched the Alicia Fox match from Raw again and that scissors kick was actually impressive - but there was zero reaction from the crowd. Women's match = cigarette break, which is rather a shame. But I'd love to see ODB or Kong in there, Kong's feuds with Gail Kim were awesome and she has done exactly bugger all since joining WWE really.
I did not know that Drew lost the belt thanks to his unpopularity! The Chosen One angle was really lame though, because thinking of Vince basically giving anyone the chance to book their own matches ect was a bit of a stretch. And it got old in a hurry, although I liked the blow-off at the end. I have a whole new respect for Cena though, saying that the smaller guys need a chance - he's right there. Look at how popular Mysterio was as champ (not so much this run of course). New main eventers are needed and with the Wellness Policy in place, we're gonna be seeing a lot less of the huge guys - in theory at least. I don't imagine we'll see Triple H being randomly tested at any point *rolls eyes*
Yeesh, if Dolph's perfection then I'll be much happier with everyone elses imperfection. The first time around it wasn't too bad and you kinda loved to hate Vickie, instead of now where it's just tiresome. I think one of the problems the Uso's face, the Hart Dynasty too, is that there just aren't that many tag teams around atm. I mean, back in the day when tag wrrestling was actually fun there were the Hardy's, Dudley's, E&C as the main ones, then about four other teams that were able to rotate so it didn't get too dull. Now, the Hart's just fight the Uso's over and over and that's no fun at all, it's been done. And tag wrestlings an art form that when done well, is just as popular as singles... one of the reasons it's rather a shame Ted and Cody aren't a team anymore!
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Post by Kurt "Fashionista" Hummel on Aug 3, 2010 4:49:18 GMT -5
Yes, they have let tag-teams and everything go to pot... Apparently there was plans to scrap it altogether, which, in my humble opinion, would suck, because it's rather boring just watching singles' competition all the time. They really underwork tag-teams and stables. They could have done so much more with Jericho and Miz during that tiny tag-team angle they had going, and back with Legacy.
And yeah, the way the other wrestlers and everyone view you apparently factors in the way things work for you. And yeah, Trips probably won't be tested anytime soon *snicker*. Apparently he's gonna be taking over the company when Vince decides his times over, because of the fact that Shane has gone off and everything. I was well surprised to hear about him having his next kid as Stephanie announced she was pregnant again, or he announced his wife was pregnant I can't remember which lol xD. One thing about Shane O'Mac though-- he had appalling ring technique, and I don't just think it was because of his age. It was so funny to watch Randy Orton pretending to get smashed in when you could plainly see each of Shane's shots were missing him xDD
I want them to do more with Divas, and have more involved storylines. They just seem to be overdoing them or not doing them enough. Apparently it happens sometimes though: the company goes on a decline and then bounces back. I haven't watched it yet today but am about to do so xD I think I taped NXT too but I can't remember. Matt Striker annoys me in NXT because he just interrupts everyone all the time, but Michael Cole's bitchy moments make me laugh xD just like Cody's. The rookies are all pretty lame though and that Kaval just creeps me out. Big Time. o.O. I heard him talk for the first time the other week and I was like, "He sounds like some creepy pedo!" xDD
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Post by Trash on Aug 3, 2010 12:31:31 GMT -5
Ah, Shane O’Mac. He wasn’t exactly ever gonna set the world on fire as a wrestler, he kinda relied on the opponent to carry him and a few crazy stunts – although he’s one of the least cringe-worthy McMahon’s. Vince is pretty okay when he sticks to just being the owner (do not want him wrestling. Ever. Nor do I ever want a resurgence of the ‘kiss my ass’ club, which was change-the-channel time the first time around). Steph – I just find it rather amusing that you can tell how evil she’s gonna be by how her hair’s styled. And Linda… no. Just no.
No spoilers in case you haven’t watched Raw yet, but keep an ear out for Mikey Cole’s comment about the cheerleader during the main event. I howled. I’m sure fits of hysterical laughter at 7-30 haven’t made the neighbours fond of me, lol.
The thing about Legacy was that they did work awesomely together and it would have been great to see them stay together in that fashion, even if they did chase after separate things in individual matches. Hey, worked for DX. And they could even have kept Maryse, because Randy and Cody’s reaction to her would have been priceless, pun not intended. Can you see the reaction when they’re discussing strategy and Maryse is hanging all over Ted? There are enough under-utilised undercarders who would benefit from exposure in tag and it’d revitalise the scene. And it amuses me to consider Legacy vs Hart Dynasty and Natalya coming up against a rather pissy Randy Orton outside the ring.
I keep forgetting to tape NXT, then the replay clashes with something I think – will have to check on that one. I’m led to believe that Kaval has actually been wrestling longer than the Miz though, hence slight amusement at the rookie- pro thing. Speaking of Miz, I think he needs to be booked in a title match at Summerslam. The trouble with him having the Money in the Bank is that the focus is on that and not on the belt. Understandable but not the best situation. Some kind of wild brawl completely filled with cool spots and near-falls would be the best, and a not-quite-clean end… maybe against Evan, whose push seems to have gone into a fast reverse in recent weeks. Which psses me off, because I love Evan to bits.
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Post by Kurt "Fashionista" Hummel on Aug 3, 2010 13:15:19 GMT -5
Evan is our baby puppy *nods* and I will be so pissed off if he walks because he's under-valued; though I can't see him going to TNA even if he did leave, because then he'd be even more under-used and stuck around hasbeens and Ric Flair. Lol xDD Mikey Cole actually admitting he's a cheerleader for the Miz had me laughing-- so awkward having slashy fan-girl thoughts when your mum's boyfriend is sat there looking at you all weird hehe. And, you know Miz loves Mikey because of the way he had Daniel Bryant all up on the announcers' table and was screaming at him to apologize *swoon*. Was not happy with the whole Jericho/Edge disbanding *rolls eyes* and the Nexus going after Khali *shakes head* it's so damned predictable and boring it's not even funny.
Seriously, they're all gonna renegade on Cena, and if they win at SummerSlam... Apparently the Nexus angle's meant to keep on until Triple H comes back, and that could be all the way down in November because he's just had surgery.
Alicia Fox on the mic-- ack >.< not as bad a Jillian but I was still wincing; she seemed to be unable to get her words out fast enough. And Melina's return was a little bit mellow, I had to admit I was expecting something bigger, because that's what usually happens when someone returns. And lol at the thought of Maryse sat there filing her nails and chattering on her phone in French as Randy's trying to be all "syris bidnizz" about the WWE Championship or whatever xD and Natalya being near the Viper when Tyson and David are against Cody and Ted... She'd prolly just back off, or slap him and then run like Vickie Guererro did when she was back as RAW's GM for all of what, an hour and a half? That nearly had me crying in laughter xDD
And seeing Khali's vice-grip kinda sucked (poor Teddeh, Codeh was there to give him some asprin and a nice head massage afterwards) considering that there was no nosebleed-- that was what made the move so damned impressive. I love the way Maryse is always the one holding the rope down for Ted (and in that segment with the Bella Twins, which was ridiculous btw, were they wearing the same dress as Maryse from like three weeks ago? o.o) and I was waiting for Khali to pull a punjabi-playboy moment and give Maryse a snog. That would have made my week haha xDD. Apparently Creative are keeping the SummerSlam thing a 5-7 match at the moment because they don't know where they're going with it-- they should be focusing more on long-term stuff than just hundreds of mini storylines. And apparently people being scouted for the WWE and the GM job have turned it down because of the PG thing.
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Post by Trash on Aug 4, 2010 2:24:30 GMT -5
Evan in TNA... don’t see it. Not with the X-division in its current state and there being a lot of cost cutting of late, Evan would be taking a pay dip and also, the face-to-heel ratio in TNA is too uneven and I can’t see Evvy as a heel. Wish WWE would make up their mind about him though, one moment he’s getting over huge, the next he’s cannon fodder. Ug, Nexus on Raw. The no-contest was obvious, I have no idea what the hell the point of Jericho tapping for no reason was given that there was no real explanation for it and the whole team dissention thing was slightly more interesting than the heels just quitting. I hope it doesn’t run ‘til Trippers return because that is just overkill, plus who wants to see him come back and destroy them when no one else could? As a stable, I could deal. As pushed as they are now though, no. Also, what the hell else is going on at SS from the Raw side, except two matches? Because they certainly haven’t been building to anything else and the Nexus thing has been inconsistent from the start.
Alicia Fox shouldn’t go near the mic. She had to think about every single word and struggled to remember them – it wasn’t really such a lot to say either. Oh hell, if Khali had snogged Maryse, I would have died on the spot, lol. Although that would probably have wrecked poor Teddy’s image way too soon for her to be turning on him. Heh, they way he lets her hold down the rope, he’s an arrogant bugger too.
The PG thing had better run its course soon, I swear – I mean, how much better would Cena’s speech have been if Jericho followed it up by flipping him off? Way more emphatic on Chris’ part than walking off, that’s for sure. The whole situation on Raw is completely confused at the moment, with everything revolving around only the two matches. Even the dissention thing only raised its head between three of them.
I think I’m going dense – I forgot to say, with teh Legacy’s gimmick of all being second-and-third generation, that also could have played off well against some of the tag teams in play atm, Hart’s and Uso’s are too. Then you’d have Brett DiBiase, whenever he shows up (probably not for a while and maybe for the best considering what’s occurring on Raw right now). And then they could have brought in Hennig Jr and Rotundo Jr too, since Bret had some good matches with Hennig Sr in the early 90’s and Rotundo Sr and Ted Sr were tag buddies at that same time (and that Cody is now his mentor makes me smile, I love how cyclical wrestling is). Or maybe it would just have diluted the gimmick and that’s why is was disbanded when it was, it would all have depended on how it was presented.
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Post by Kurt "Fashionista" Hummel on Aug 4, 2010 3:51:17 GMT -5
They get really good storyline ideas now and again, but as you say they either over-play it or down-play it; they need to work on striking their balance some more. And you're right about TNA: they're close to being shut down apparently and loads of their wrestlers aren't being paid, and apparently Hulk Hogan is already considering leaving it... Which is pretty redundant considering TNA made such a big deal about him coming to join them and he hasn't really done anything. *shakes head* the retired wrestlers really shoud know when to let their in-ring careers go down because they just can't perform in a convincing manner, and they can't expect their opponent to do everything for them. Ricky The Dragon Steamboat is really the only older wrestler who can still perform pretty well in the ring I think-- when he and those other guys were against Chris I was impressed with his abilities considering how old he is-- I hope he recovers from his health complications, though that loophole that provided them being "allowed" to be targeted by Nexus was pretty weak.
Wrestling is really crclical isn't it? lol. And, to think, Vince's grandkids aren't going to have to work a day in their life if they don't want to actually do something-- they will be able to get jobs in the company no problem... Lucky buggers >.< D'you know what always amuses me? Imagining the likes of Triple H turning up at a parents evening xD I bet their kids get some sparkling reports alright, because who'd wanna piss either Steph or Trips off?
NXT is quite good in its sense of what it does, but I think they're not sticking to the point of it too well-- like with the season one, they were after ONE upandcomer, and yet suddenly all of them have contracts-- and half of them can't even perform! They can't do that with the second season, and the one after that because then they're going to have no way to work it; they can't have them all coming in and running amoc everyewhere.
It's just the way that all of the seasoned superstars keep getting their heads kicked in out of nowhere that really bothers me... It's just so lacking in actual credibility. I really want Miz to win the WWE Championship, because I think he and Randy are developing quite a good chemistry together in the ring and that'd be good to see, and it'd have someone new being on top for a change-- but I agree that they need to do more with Evan. They lost an awesome wrestler in Jeff through under appreciation, and if they don't watch themselves it'll keep happening... and they can't afford that talent wise. I was watching old matches on youtube the other day-- the one where Maria was against Santino and all the divas came out, and then the one where Beth Phoenix came out and accepted his challenge to beat him xD they made me chuckle.
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Post by Trash on Aug 5, 2010 2:18:50 GMT -5
Hulk will leave anything that doesn’t make money right away or doesn’t make him the centre of attention... and then there’s Flair, who just can’t stand not to be the centre of attention. In a way I can understand it, in more ways it’s really sad. Flair lives way too far beyond his means, while Hogan has had problems of his own. They could get by retired, but are not willing to leave behind the limelight, even if it means most people are cringing at them. I suppose that wrestling is more lucrative these days, but the common thought is that Hogan would be rich for life, while Flair could have been, and Dixie made a huge mistake signing them. I said so at the time and am more behind that statement now; she should have been making an alternative to WWE and not a place where they retire to. That was WCW in 2001 and the reason they sank. If she worked on the parts that WWE neglect – the X-division and the knock-outs – she’d have more luck.
I hope Vinnie’s grandkids are wiser than Steph. Vince made the WWE by taking a bull by its balls and he’s been showing precious few of those recently. DO NOT WANT Triple H. Good grief, lay him out to pasture already. He was good, never great. He was fun, relevant... but never awesome. And more of him? No. No no no no no. And no. His matches are dull, he’s not really likeable and he should take the opportunity to say Sheamus ended it and make him seem like an unstoppable monster.
The thing with the next NXT is that Hennig – what are they calling him, McGillutty? How lame is that? – is as qualified as Natalya. Ditto Husky. Is it me, or is NXT a chance to think up the most stupid names imaginable and don them on someone? None of them are ever gonna beat Edge’s training name of ‘Sexton Hardcastle’ though. I enjoy NXT, but mostly because I like watching Cody and JoMo. Who has lovely thighs. Just saying. The stuff they’re expected to do is pretty damn stupid and I don’t see how they account to helping pro-wrestling ability. And the kickings are getting soooo old now. For a while, perhaps, it was new at the time but it needs to be brough to an end, Summerslam for sure.
Wish I had Trippers sticking up for me on parent evening though! Wish I was Vince’s grand-child... *sigh* Immediate high paid job around a bunch of pro-wrestlers. Not seeing a down side.
Jeff Hardy is very much an oddity in wrestling. I’ve followed his career since 1999 and have always had a bad crush on him, which clouds my feelings slightly. Matt is better technically, but he is not the one that people want to see. Jeff has had points where he wants to quit and plays on his own terms... admirable, if he stays out of jail. Jeff was fantastic as underdog champion. But I didn’t see him going places from there, especially if Matt didn’t go anywhere. Don’t get me wrong, I love him to bits... I just don’t know what would have lied in store in WWE. Not that TNA is better. Heh, AJ Styles is apparently very pissy about being beat by Van Dam, who really hasn’t much changed at all since ECW. And true, when RVD won the title AJ looked so devastated I had the urge to hug him!
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Post by Kurt "Fashionista" Hummel on Aug 5, 2010 3:19:05 GMT -5
Yes, NXT is an excuse for the dopey names-- and yes, excellent chance to stare at the Coddles, JoMo, and Mizzy... And hear more of Michael Cole's "Mrs Miz" commentary xD I love that. And I love the way he always tells of Todd Grisham or which one it is that does commentary with him... I forget >.< I've only seen lik two episodes haha. I was severely unimpressed with RAW this week, but that was probably just because they were taping the show on top of the other one as they were out in Australia, but still... No. Was lame. Bah. Hopes that it does improve soon, as it's gonna end up losing more wrestlers and ratings. I lol'd when someone put on a LJ site I go on (for the fanfics) that apparently someone asked Randy Orton on Twitter if he was in love with John Cena, and his response was, "Not recently." xD Love it. Some doughnut apparently sent him a picture of a manip like the one you have for your icon, Trash... And I agreed with those on the site who said that was stupid and gave fangirls a bad name. True-fax.
I agree Steph had her lame moments, as did Shane, when they were in charge, but she never failed to make me laugh when she copied her dad doing the "You're fired!" bit-- was amused and slightly sad when she did it to Chris that time, but you knew that he wasn't going anywhere-- coincidentally he's suppoed to be having time off soon, so that could be leading up to something maybe... Is hoping anyway. Not too sure about next week's main event though tbh... Bret and John? Hmm...
John-John, yes, because I loves John-John and am always on the look out for Centon moments xD but Bret's just getting too old for it now. You could tell it when he "wrestled" against Mr McMahon at Wrestlemania. And when he "won" the United States title from the Miz-- and then fell off of the second rope when he made to jump on it and hold the title up *chuckles* that did make me laugh. Mean, I know, but it amused me most greatly. And the three-quater jeans just look daft on a man of Bret's age. It may just be me who thinks so but I'm just always like, "Bret, get some real jeans for goodness sake!" He can't pull them off cause he's just too old for it. It's like when the really big (f.a.t.) wreslters wear tiny trunks-- ack!
And I heard that AJ Styles was a pretty alright character on TNA until Ric Flair sunk his claws into him-- I saw a bit of a stand-off he had with Ric and some other guy on TNA a while back, but didn't really know where it all came from lol xD
I miss the way wrestling used to be, with the blood and weapons and the more proper-segment involved storylines and not pissy little backstage moments like the Nexus keep having. *wants to kick David Otunga in the teeth more than any of them*. The Rock was supposed to be coming back to guest-host in the summer, but with the way things are now I sadly can't see it happening. It was so disappointing when Stone Cold was on because of the way they stifled him so badly with the PG-- no swearing, and no Stunner. The Stunner was what I was waiting for the whole damned night! lol. Bloody PG bollocks... There was a thing on "Ted's" FB asking what people thought about it and there was like 100+ comments that said it was essentially shit-- in many different ways though hehe.
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Post by Trash on Aug 6, 2010 2:17:09 GMT -5
Someone actually sent Randy a manip of himself with Cena? *horror* Oh god, that’s just the worst thing! I want to cringe just thinking about it... yeah, bad name for fangirls alright. It’s one thing to be kidding around and writing fanfics that you know none of the people involved are ever gonna read, but that kinda thing smacks of creepy-stalker or something. I check out the twitters sometimes, some are quite amusing. Randy’s is actually kinda disappointing though, Evan’s latest quoted the Simpsons and Jericho cracks me up XD
Raw was kinda sucky, but parts of it were pretty good. No contest with Edge was weak though, weak ending in an otherwise decent John-Chris match. And I’m really not sure about Bret and John teaming next week. He wasn’t on Raw live or pre-taped because he’s on honeymoon apparently. But ‘the Excellence of Execution’ simply isn’t anymore. He was retired due to his health problems, he’s since had a stroke and although he’s in far better shape than a man of similar age with comparable issues, he really can’t be compared with the much younger, fitter men that he’ll be in the ring with. I read his autobiography a few weeks ago, it was pretty interesting stuff. But I think he should stick to managerial, with the occasional foray into an odd suckerpunch.
Heh, there should be a rule where fat wrestlers have to cover up all the time – though it’s never sunk to the depths of Naked Mideon, thank all that’s holy for that. I don’t think I ever turned a programme off so fast in my whole life. Big Show style singlets for fat blokes are a must. And he really needs to stop pulling that thing down so we all get a good look at his boobs.
Jericho’s contract is up in September, I just hope WWE gives him reason to stay – it’s not the money with him because he took a couple years off before. I read an interview with him during that time and he said he was financially in a position to do so and wanted to do other things; if he were to want to wrestle for even another year there’s gonna have to be some incentive. And I love Jericho, I want him to stay! I don’t think he’d entertain the thought of going to TNA though. Aj Styles was really good and his career was hot, right up until he was aligned with Flair and ever since it’s been going downhill in a hurry.
Yeah, wrestling is always better when there’s no restrictions. Not that I’m saying that blood and weapons always makes a good match, TNA is proof of that (Abyss matches especially) but there needs to be some leeway! If you wanna suspend disbelief and believe they really are whaling the crap out of each other, then some sign of visible injury is way more believable than none. Not to mention that when the match is stopped for a clean-up on accidental injuries, it’s infuriating. And no stunner is just so very, very wrong. The Attitude Era had its flaws but damn, they weren’t always so obvious as they are now. Now, you have a lot more wrestlers with more talent, but a complete lack of coherent and engaging story lines. The Rock might still guest host though, since he's also doing the kiddy films atm - I took some children to see the Tooth Fairy last week and let me reassure you, the Rock in a tutu was something I never needed to see.
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